THE MCJ

Christian scholarship is the Church’s prodigious invention to defend itself against the Bible. - Søren Kierkegaard

UH...WHAT?

I don't know what to make of this:

Following his stop at the world’s "meeting-place," the Pope’ll settle in at the Holy See’s Mission House on 72nd Street through the afternoon, emerging again before 5pm for the late-scheduled stop at Park East Synagogue before the ecumenical prayer-service at St Joseph’s church on the Upper East. (On a side-note, among the national Christian leaders invited to the cross-community prayer was Katharine Jefferts Schori, the presiding bishop of the Episcopal church. Jefferts Schori declined the invite, citing a scheduling conflict; the US branch of Anglicanism will be represented by Bishop Mark Sisk of New York.)

On the one hand, it's really depressing that Mrs. Schori was invited to this thing at all.  The Vatican does know that she's a Spongian and that the Episcopal Organization hasn't had any real connection to the Christian religion for a couple of decades now, doesn't it?  Sucks that TEO's going to be represented at all.  On the other hand...

"Scheduling conflict?!!"

Here's the deal.  If you get invited to a prayer service by ELCA Presiding Bishop Mark "Chopper" Hanson, say, or Presbyterian Church (USA) Stated Clerk What's-his-name, then "scheduling conflict" works.  But if you get invited to a prayer service by the Pope, the occupant of the Chair of St. Peter and one of the most influential persons and Christians IN THE WORLD, then I don't care how Protestant you are, you clear your damn schedule.  Kapeesh?

If Benedict XVI decided, for some reason, that he wanted to meet with Anglican bloggers and invited me, I'm there even though it gets me even further into debt(because Griffith's bogarting all the Scaife money) and probably costs me my job.  So is this a deliberate insult?  I don't know and really don't care.  And Benedict hopefully doesn't either which is all that matters.

Posted on 4/18/2008 10:32:29 PM , 96 comments

Submitted by Diane at 4/18/2008 1:44:51 PM

I think the Anglican/Episcopal church has been detached for far longer than a 'couple of decades'....more like for 500 years. KJS probably sited the schedule conflict in an attempt to show that she doesn't jump when the Pope calls....just more protesting, actually. She's silly and unimportant and trying to show otherwise, which actually shows how silly and unimportant she is.
Submitted by Sasha at 4/18/2008 1:54:24 PM

Likely the invitation list was done by the local "liberals" in the New York archdiocese under Cardinal Egan (who well may be "liberal" - not for nothing that Romanists in Rome regard their North-American brethren as "Thomases"). If the Vatican had been more involved, the odds against her being invited would have been much better!

Either way, Ms. Schori-Jefferts' declination says volumes about who and what she is!!! [If it had been a "liberal" (à la Martini or Tettamanzi), she would THEN have jumped with delight... That it's Ratzinger who became Benedict XVI is like pure poison to her and her fellow-Antichrists!!!!]
Submitted by Therese Z at 4/18/2008 1:57:47 PM

If the Vatican were involved (and you bet they had to approve the invitation list) they would JUMP at the chance to invite her. It would be rude to pass over the Presiding Bishop of any Christian denomination, and the Vatican is nothing if not polite, occasionally in an icily Italian way. I was impressed with the caliber of the invitees at the interreligious dialogue group (Muslims, Buddhists, Jainists, Jews, etc.) And the ugliness of some of their presents for His Holiness.
Submitted by Jeffersonian_ at 4/18/2008 2:03:33 PM

Let's be honest here - the convocation will be greatly enhanced by Mrs. Schori's absence (can anyone imagine the outlandish costume a papal visit might provoke?), even though Sisk's presence will not enhance it to any degree.
Submitted by DeeBee at 4/18/2008 2:06:05 PM

Please remember that KJS has a history of sending invitation letters to travellers from far away, to travel even farther for the raw privilege and pleasure of kissing her . . . ring.
Submitted by DeeBee at 4/18/2008 2:09:28 PM

Another observation: Hillary Clinton has managed to show up for the last several State of the Union addresses, even if she only clapped half-heartedly and rolled her eyes occasionally.
Submitted by Daniel Muller at 4/18/2008 2:26:35 PM

For whatever it might be worth, I think that it was all arranged beforehand. I doubt that anyone but the most sunnily optimistic particularly wanted to invite her in the first place, and I doubt that she particularly wanted to go.

[Maybe she heard a voice: "Begone! You have no power here!"]
Submitted by Texas Bama Fan at 4/18/2008 2:40:14 PM

I think Sasha's got it right. He's kryptonite to her. Or you know how in the movies vampires always recoil in horror when someone makes the sign of the cross to shield themselves? It's that kind of thing.
Submitted by Tom (St. Louis)_ at 4/18/2008 2:40:43 PM

I posted my first observation on the thread below: the RCC dissed the coronation of Je Suis l'Eglise by sending a monsignor (or some lower ranking representative) so Je Suis thinks she is returning the favor. In addition, she is a former RC herself and probably harbors some unresolved animosity towards the Church of her birth. Finally, she may think she is standing in solidarity with the Women Priest movement.

In any event, I don't think anyone is mising her.

Submitted by Fuinseoig at 4/18/2008 2:54:20 PM

Well, it may be her version of being polite: "Um, tell him I can't come because my diary's full - yeah, that'll work!" rather than run the risk of any little awkwardness. ("So, I understand that you also come from academic life, Presiding Bishop? Ah, how I remember the days when I first became a professor, at the University of Bonn. Then I left for the University of Munster, where they were very kind to me - they couldn't have been more understanding when Cardinal Frings asked me to serve as peritus at the Second Vatican Council. And then of course, on to the University of Tubingen, where I met and worked with Hans Kung. Dear Hans, of course we have our little disagreements, but I still remember him fondly. And lastly, home to my own Bavaria, to my dear Regensburg and the University there. I so enjoyed co-founding and working on "Communio" with Hans Urs von Balthasar, Henri de Lubac, and Walter Kasper. Maybe you've heard of our little journal? But please forgive me for reminiscing like this - where did you work before being elected to your present office?" "I was Dean of the Good Samaritan School of Theology in Corvallis, Oregon, actually." "Ah, indeed. How very demanding such an important post must have been. Tell me, what was your thesis for your Doctorate in Divinity? Mine was on St. Bonaventure - well, it was for my Habilitation, which is roughly our equivalent of the Doctor in Divinity award." "Oh, mine is an honorary award from the Church Divinity School of the Pacific. You see, in the United States, we don't actually award such advanced degrees, so they're always an honorary award." "How interesting. I did not know that.")

Okay, that was mean, because it was just too easy. But I do want to know where she's visiting today, though. If it's to do with visiting an Episcopalian congregation for pastoral reasons (other than threatening to inhibit the bishop, seize the premises, or sue the vestry, that is) then sure, that's fine. Gotta tend the sheep :-)
Submitted by Zach Frey at 4/18/2008 3:07:35 PM

The Vatican does know that she's a Spongian and that the Episcopal Organization hasn't had any real connection to the Christian religion for a couple of decades now, doesn't it?

Well, His Holiness does seem to be keen on keeping dialogue open with leaders of non-Christian religions...

(rimshot)

Snarking aside - my word what is that woman thinking??? Yeah, you just suck it up and go. I mean - there's zero chance of my converting to Tibetan Buddhism, but if I'd been on the invite list to the Dalai Lama's stop in my neighborhood this weekend, you can bet I wouldn't have any "scheduling conflict".

peace,

Zach

Submitted by Gregg the obscure_ at 4/18/2008 3:19:51 PM

I think this afteroon's function is partly an exercise in ecumenism and partly one in evangelism. EO is certainly in need of the latter. It is funny to think of holy water splashing onto and melting a certain oven-mitt wearer a la The Wizard of Oz.
Submitted by Dale Price at 4/18/2008 3:22:41 PM

A few thoughts:

1. Most likely, she's stamping her foot in a little snit. Come on--this Pope doesn't travel as much and the trip has been common knowledge for months. She inhibited a man whose son was on his deathbed, so we know she does "petty" very well. Odds (75% likely) are she's making some kind of insignificant statement on behalf of the rest of her boutique sectarians. Probably some kind of payback for the then-Cardinal Ratzinger message to the Anglicans in Fort Worth.

2. Who cares? I'm reminded of the Oscar Wilde sketch--"Before you arrive is a pleasure, and after..."

3. Chris, if you get an invite before I do, the curia's got some splainin' to do. Rest assured, Frey and his fellow Rwandans are bogarting the Scaife caish.

4. Or, if you want a really fun theory, it's just possible (25% chance) that the Vatican cleared its throat beforehand and said she would be persona non grata. We've done it before, advising Forcefield Frank he couldn't come to an ordination on Catholic ground. Don't rule it out.

Submitted by PNP, OP at 4/18/2008 3:30:04 PM

Really very sad: Episcopal pygmies standing next to The Supreme Pontiff. Could anyone conjure a more telling pic than one with one of these TEO brocaded bureaucrats posing next to a man of real faith and intellectual genius? Pygmies, indeed. Fr. Philip, OP
Submitted by dwstroudmd at 4/18/2008 3:31:50 PM

Probably she couldn't wear what she regards as regalia - since it would imply to have entered wearing it that she actually thinks she's a bishop - since Rome does NOT recognize women priests or bishops and that would be intolerable to one of her egocentric giftedness. Much better to pretend a scheduling conflict than to endure cognitive dissonance and having "All is Well (tm)" meltdown in public.

Besides, it was only the Pope, not anybody really important like Spong or VGR or ....

Submitted by saint at 4/18/2008 3:41:39 PM

I'd like to think the Vatican invited her and she snubbed the Pope as some kind of insignificant statement on behalf of the "cult of up-scale Western sodomites and attendant fetishists" (with apologies to Mark Steyn) plus a dose of contempt for Catholics. It seems to fit her pattern of behaviour. Meaning someone find out who or what, if anything, upstaged B16 in her small little world and call Tim Russert. It could be riotous.
Submitted by The Pilgrim at 4/18/2008 3:54:45 PM

Tom (St. Louis)

"...the RCC dissed the coronation of Je Suis l'Eglise by sending a monsignor (or some lower ranking representative) so Je Suis thinks she is returning the favor."

Let us not forget that even the Archbishop of Canterbury stayed away from Kate's Seating Ceremony. He sent the Bishop of Lincoln as his representative. How much of a snub was that?

Submitted by Phil at 4/18/2008 3:56:48 PM

Chris – the Roman Catholic Church is, in violation of the most ancient and sacred traditions, crossing GCC’s boundaries and hasn’t even asked for permission. What’s worse, the RCC insists on honoring the most ancient and sacred traditions in its belief that a marriage can only exist between one man and one woman. Schori’s just showing the Pope what she thinks of his arrogance, that’s all. He should be thankful he’s only getting stiffed rather than served a big fat lawsuit.
Submitted by Peter Brown at 4/18/2008 4:10:25 PM

You know, I'm sure glad I wasn't drinking anything when I came across this one. Schori does seem to have a positive genius for own goals, doesn't she?

Peace,
--Peter
Submitted by Anon-a-moose at 4/18/2008 4:20:21 PM

Kate or as I shall now call Spongian-Kate-Square-Pants (hoping not to be sued by the kid's star). I live on the prairies, where cows grow big and that methane comes from. It takes a special talent to step from one fresh cow-pie into another, but she is the best.
Submitted by Rick Arllen at 4/18/2008 4:20:31 PM

The lady lacks couth.
Submitted by the snarkster at 4/18/2008 4:28:00 PM

Inviting the Presiding Barrister to any kind of Christian function would be kinda like inviting somebody to pee on your shoes. the snarkster
Submitted by StJulian at 4/18/2008 4:48:48 PM

I remember when Cardinal Ratzinger sent the message of encouragement to the first Plano conference. But I don't think it's that. I think it's that she's sort of stupid sometimes. Like the lie on her resume. Like trying to con the court in Virginia.
Submitted by Diane at 4/18/2008 4:55:12 PM

Father Philip....what a riot your comment is....and how true!
Submitted by Bill (not IB) at 4/18/2008 5:02:18 PM

I'm going to speak my mind here - and I expect to get reamed for it.

To the Vatican, extending an invitation to KJS is the same as asking Hillary Clinton or George Bush to attend. It's addressing a *secular* leader, not anyone with a religious significance. If the Vatican were to treat matters otherwise, they would be acknowledging the legitimacy of WO - which I'm pretty darn sure they won't EVER do.

While KJS may have an office of leadership in TEO, she is not, under any Catholic interpretation, the "Presiding Bishop". And she would never be recognized as a member of the clergy by Rome; merely as a "minister" - which isn't the same thing at all.

For those who accuse me of disrespect - fine; have at it and be done with you. But from my perspective, I *can't* show disrespect for a clergyperson to someone who is not, according to all the rules and traditions most of the Catholic churches hold dear, a validly ordained deacon/priest/bishop. That's why I habitually refer to Schori as "KJS"; not as an insult, but as a simple statement of fact according to the faith as I (and the Church) have received it.
Submitted by Ed the Roman at 4/18/2008 5:03:07 PM

Well, the invite probably reviewed traditional etiquette for women meeting the Pope, which specifies a black full-length dress with long sleeves and no décolletage. With a veil.
Submitted by Llano Estacado at 4/18/2008 5:14:26 PM

Well, the invite probably reviewed traditional etiquette for women meeting the Pope, which specifies a black full-length dress with long sleeves and no décolletage. With a veil. No oven mitts? That might explain it.
Submitted by LP at 4/18/2008 5:25:02 PM

THE EPISCOPAL ORGANIZATION -- Office of the Supreme Leader, Fuhrer, and Executive Autocrat

Dr. Katharine Jefferts Schori

Presiding Oddly Mitred Person and Gorilla

 
Announcement of the Deposition of Pope Benedict XVI

 
The Title IV Review Committee having certified to me on April 19, 2008 pursuant to Canon IV. 1(1) of the Hermetic-Samaratine Corpus of the Secret Laws of Episcopal church (whose glorious contents are known only to those initiated into the mysteries of the goddess under the aegis of Simon Magus by archierophant Beers) that the Rt. Rev. Joseph Alois Ratzinger, sometimes known as Benedict the XVI, bishop of Rome, has abandoned the communion and teaching of this organization; and the three senior individuals of my personal coffee & martini klatch (the Rt. Rev B. Harris, the Rt. Rev. J. Spong and the Rt. Rev. V. G. Robinson) having consented to this inhibition on that same day, I hereby inhibit the said Bishop Ratzinger and order that from and after April 19, 2005, he cease and desist from exercising the gifts of ordination and ministry; and pursuant to Canon IV.15 of that same Hermetic legal corpus, I pronounce him deposed and order that he cease and desist such acts in any jurisdiction, country, monastery, pub, auditorium, sports arena, or ecclesial location.

I further order and decree that, pursuant to Canon IV.23a and to the Denis Canon, that all monies, properties, parishes, buildings, endowments and any other temporal or secular possessions heretofore belonging either to his see of Rome or to any diocese, religious house or institution which owes affiliation to that see is now forfeit to the Episcopal Organization and I direct that all titles, funds, leases, liens and endowments be transfered forthwith to this office after which transfers, pursuant to section 23b of that same canon, I direct him to cease and desist exercise of all matters temporal as well.

I call upon this former bishop of Rome, now deposed, to apologize to the world for being accused of supporting Nazism, for belittling Islam, for denigrating European secularism, for causing global warming, for eating beef, for rejecting homosexualism and women's ordination, for encouraging prayer, for having nicer vestments than I do, and for upholding Christian teaching.

I hereby direct that notice of this Inhibition and Deposition be expiditiously sent to the college of Roman cardinals, Louis Crew, the New York Times, the Ecumenical Patriarch (you're next, mister!), the Dali Lama, Barbara Streisand, Muqtada al-Sadr and Mahmoud Ahmadinejad may-he-live-forever-and-be-blessed-with-100-camels.

Signed,
Katharine J. "Kitty Cat" Schori
a.k.a. Donnette Schorlione
Presiding Administrator of the Episcopal Organization
Revered and fully-participating member of the Canturbury Anglican Communion.

Submitted by TWilson at 4/18/2008 5:25:31 PM

Llano - You wrote: "No oven mitss?" Only if she's carrying a baking sheet full of strudel.
Submitted by Sasha at 4/18/2008 5:30:00 PM

LP, the names of Osama bin Laden and Ayman al-Zawahirí need to be on that list of yours...
Submitted by Michael at 4/18/2008 5:32:14 PM

Well, here is my two cents: Since KJS knows that this Pope believes what he says, which includes not ordaining homosexuals or women, she would feel out of place with this Pope, esp. since she is a convert from Catholicism. But, to the point St. Julian mentioned above, I think KJS is irate at Cardinal Ratzinger's little note from October 2003. From Joseph Cardinal Ratzinger Prefect of the congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith The Vatican, on behalf of Pope John Paul II I hasten to assure you of my heartfelt prayers for all those taking part in this convocation. The significance of your meeting is sensed far beyond Plano, and even in this city from which Saint Augustine of Canterbury was sent to confirm and strengthen the preaching of Christ's Gospel in England. Nor can I fail to recall that barely 120 years later, Saint Boniface brought that same Christian faith from England to my own forebears in Germany. The lives of these saints show us how in the Church of Christ there is a unity in truth and a communion of grace which transcend the borders of any nation. With this in mind, I pray in particular that God's will may be done by all those who seek that unity in the truth, the gift of Christ himself. With fraternal regards, I remain Sincerely yours in Christ, +Joseph cardinal Ratzinger
Submitted by LC at 4/18/2008 5:36:41 PM

"Schorlione" . . . I like it!
Submitted by Clown Celebrant at 4/18/2008 5:47:36 PM

The Presumptuous Bishop was not there because the image of a lady wearing a rainbow mitt on her head being thrown over the pope's knee and spanked might not enhance her image. But, seriously, perhaps a photo of her with the pope's finger wagging in her face would certainly not go over well with judges and juries in her many upcoming legal battles.
Submitted by Connie at 4/18/2008 5:52:44 PM

So, when representatives of the other churches were presented to the Pope at the end of the servce, the commenters noted that the Orthodox went first because of their position [paraphrasing]. I noted that Bp. Mark Sisk was the last to be presented to greet the Pope, after the Baptists, Pentecostals, Lutherans, Methodists, and all the other representatives. Wonder what Sisk said to His Holiness. I kinda thought the Pope didn't like what Sisk said; Benedict certainly wasn't smiling at the end of their tete a tete. I may be reading too much into it, but did anybody else think that?

And, what His Holiness said certainly was a gave NO comfort to liberals:

Too often those who are not Christians, as they observe the splintering of Christian communities, are understandably confused about the Gospel message itself. Fundamental Christian beliefs and practices are sometimes changed within communities by so-called "prophetic actions" that are based on a hermeneutic not always consonant with the datum of Scripture and Tradition. Communities consequently give up the attempt to act as a unified body, choosing instead to function according to the idea of "local options". Somewhere in this process the need for diachronic koinonia - communion with the Church in every age - is lost, just at the time when the world is losing its bearings and needs a persuasive common witness to the saving power of the Gospel (cf. Rom 1:18-23).

Faced with these difficulties, we must first recall that the unity of the Church flows from the perfect oneness of the Trinitarian God. In John's Gospel, we are told that Jesus prayed to his Father that his disciples might be one, "just as you are in me and I am in you" (Jn 17:21). This passage reflects the unwavering conviction of the early Christian community that its unity was both caused by, and is reflective of, the unity of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. This, in turn, suggests that the internal cohesion of believers was based on the sound integrity of their doctrinal confession (cf. 1 Tim 1:3-11). Throughout the New Testament, we find that the Apostles were repeatedly called to give an account for their faith to both Gentiles (cf. Acts 17:16-34) and Jews (cf. Acts 4:5-22; 5:27-42). The core of their argument was always the historical fact of Jesus's bodily resurrection from the tomb (Acts 2:24, 32; 3:15; 4:10; 5:30; 10:40; 13:30). The ultimate effectiveness of their preaching did not depend on "lofty words" or "human wisdom" (1 Cor 2:13), but rather on the work of the Spirit (Eph 3:5) who confirmed the authoritative witness of the Apostles (cf. 1 Cor 15:1-11). The nucleus of Paul's preaching and that of the early Church was none other than Jesus Christ, and "him crucified" (1 Cor 2:2). But this proclamation had to be guaranteed by the purity of normative doctrine expressed in creedal formulae - symbola - which articulated the essence of the Christian faith and constituted the foundation for the unity of the baptized (cf. 1 Cor 15:3-5; Gal 1:6-9; Unitatis Redintegratio, 2).

Submitted by Sibyl at 4/18/2008 6:16:30 PM

Sounds like 'Il Papa' took some kids out behind the woodshed. Hope they heard his lecture. His Boss will do much worse if they don't.
Submitted by Transponder at 4/18/2008 6:20:58 PM

Fuinseoig and LP, I do wish you people wouldn't do that without giving due warning. It's the small hours over here, and I'm going to have to apologise (again) to my neighbours for waking them up with my laughter.
Submitted by Paula Loughlin at 4/18/2008 6:23:03 PM

Address to Ecumenical Meeting at St. Joseph's Church, New York

The Holy Father addressed representatives of other Christian communities during an ecumenical encounter at St. Joseph's Church, New York, 18 April 2008.

"Too often those who are not Christians, as they observe the splintering of Christian communities, are understandably confused about the Gospel message itself. Fundamental Christian beliefs and practices are sometimes changed within communities by so-called "prophetic actions" that are based on a hermeneutic not always consonant with the datum of Scripture and Tradition. Communities consequently give up the attempt to act as a unified body, choosing instead to function according to the idea of "local options". Somewhere in this process the need for diachronic koinonia - communion with the Church in every age - is lost, just at the time when the world is losing its bearings and needs a persuasive common witness to the saving power of the Gospel (cf. Rom 1:18-23)."

No comment needed.

Submitted by Paula Loughlin at 4/18/2008 6:25:40 PM

Sorry I posted before noticing it was a duplicate of Connie's post. Please remove it if you so wish.
Submitted by Fuinseoig at 4/18/2008 6:35:29 PM

Transponder (a) sincerest apologies both to you and your neighbours but (b) if you don't know by now that we're evil... ;-)
Submitted by Tom Vaughn at 4/18/2008 6:37:54 PM

Here I must ask some questions. Which of these two exemplifies most clearly the character and wisdom of Christ - Katharine or Benedict? Which manifests most clearly by words and actions submission and obediance to the Holy Spirit - Katharine or Benedict? Which of them would you trust as a Sunday School teacher for your children - Katharine or Benedict? If you were on a sinking ship and your life and the lives of your loved ones were at stake, who would you want to be the ship's captain - Katharine or Benedict? If your answers to these questions were Katharine, great! Go in peace to love and serve the Lord, and pray diligently for her. If your answers were Benedict, why are you not Catholic? I am not proselytizing, but I am genuinely curious to know.
Submitted by Fuinseoig at 4/18/2008 6:40:17 PM

"So-called 'prophetic actions'".

Oh, ouch. That's gotta burn.

Submitted by Floridian at 4/18/2008 6:43:50 PM

Connie, Comfort is exactly what Benedict XVI did give to the liberals, the ancient kind of comfort illustrated aptly in the medieval tapestry entitled 'King William comforteth his soldiers.' The King is shown sitting on a horse poking the rear of his soldier with his sword as a means of 'encouraging' him in the battle. This is precisely the kind of comfort the liberals need. Whether they will heed is entirely their choice - and - their consequences.
Submitted by Sasha at 4/18/2008 6:53:32 PM

Mr. Vaughan:

I've known some good Protestant and Orthodox - yes, and also Romanist! - pastoral people. Exactly the kind of people (in all three branches) who exemplify the character and wisdom of Christ and everything else on your list, and with whom I'd even entrust my life!

Alas, I've also known some real stinkers who truly ought to be eliminated from any and all sorts of clerical orders - and again, from all three branches!

I therefore submit that, while revering Benedict most profoundly and fervently (and one particular deceased Protestant minister I was exceedingly proud to know as a good friend said that although he wasn't in 100% agreement with the Pope, the percentage of agreement was very high!), there's far more than being in a particular denomination at stake!!!

E.g., where you have an Akinola, you also have an Ingham; with Benedict, a Mahony; and so on...
Submitted by obituary at 4/18/2008 7:07:13 PM

Actually she did not accept the invitation because she had no red shoes. As Wicked Witch of the West she covets those ruby slippers and no freaking way was she being upstaged by a man wearing red shoes and in a white dress too! The lady has style after all. (No matter what you think of it)
Submitted by Fuinseoig at 4/18/2008 7:11:57 PM

Oh, noes! Phil, it's even worse than you've said. I regret to inform you all that it's not simply a matter of boundary crossing, but brazen stealing of the Presiding Bishop's pet phrase as well! And the Pope didn't even acknowledge where he heard it first or from whom he got it!

Papal Address given at Park East Synagogue

"Dear Friends, Shalom! It is with joy that I come here, just a few hours before the celebration of your Pesah, to express my respect and esteem for the Jewish community in New York City. The proximity of this place of worship to my residence gives me the opportunity to greet some of you today. I find it moving to recall that Jesus, as a young boy, heard the words of Scripture and prayed in a place such as this. I thank Rabbi Schneier for his words of welcome and I particularly appreciate your kind gift, the spring flowers and the lovely song that the children sang for me. I know that the Jewish community make a valuable contribution to the life of the city, and I encourage all of you to continue building bridges of friendship with all the many different ethnic and religious groups present in your neighborhood. I assure you most especially of my closeness at this time, as you prepare to celebrate the great deeds of the Almighty, and to sing the praises of Him who has worked such wonders for his people. I would ask those of you who are present to pass on my greetings and good wishes to all the members of the Jewish community. Blessed be the name of the Lord!"

He has to know that "Shalom!" is the Official Greeting of TEC and here he is appropriating it for his own use. On behalf of my church, with tears of genuine repentance and a firm purpose of amendment, I apologise most profoundly. Can you ever forgive us?

Submitted by Truth Unites... and Divides at 4/18/2008 7:44:06 PM

Crud. Doesn't look like the PBess is gonna go home to Rome. Or even wants to go to Rome. Oh well, no "tradebacks", huh?

;-)

Submitted by tjmcmahon at 4/18/2008 9:12:34 PM

Could it be that she received a letter prior to the Pope's arrival suggesting that she absent herself if she was going to insist on wearing a rainbow oven mitt? Of course, there is also the boundary crossing problem. I mean, this Roman Bishop has more non-TEC bishops in US jurisdictions than Venables, Orombi and Akinola COMBINED!
Submitted by Christopher Hathaway at 4/18/2008 10:02:55 PM

It is my understanding that anti-matter cannot exist in the same space as matter.

Think of it from her perspective: If you were a shadow, would you want to be near light?

Submitted by Connie at 4/18/2008 10:05:41 PM

It's coming up on 10:03 p.m. CDT and EWTN TV is just starting to replay the Ecumenical Service.
Submitted by Noah D at 4/18/2008 10:44:42 PM

"If your answers were Benedict, why are you not Catholic?" 'Cause the RCIA at St. Alponsus, Zionsville IN, doesn't start until August, darnit! Ah, well...patience is one of those things I should pray for, anyway.
Submitted by Noah D at 4/18/2008 10:46:39 PM

Er, that's St. Alphonsus, not St. Alponsus (who is the patron saint of animal food workers).
Submitted by Ken at 4/18/2008 10:47:45 PM

I'm watching through EWTN. Just amazing! It's not a surprise that Herself was invited, as she would not have been vested. And, therefore, no surprise that she declined, since she would not have been on display, hawking her theological wares. I'd love to see the guest list; Pat Robertson is the only one mentioned so far.

All the texts for the visit, including this one, are at Whispers in the Loggia. Here's another excellent passage:

This passage reflects the unwavering conviction of the early Christian community that its unity was both caused by, and is reflective of, the unity of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. This, in turn, suggests that the internal cohesion of believers was based on the sound integrity of their doctrinal confession (cf. 1 Tim 1:3-11). Throughout the New Testament, we find that the Apostles were repeatedly called to give an account for their faith to both Gentiles (cf. Acts 17:16-34) and Jews (cf. Acts 4:5-22; 5:27-42). The core of their argument was always the historical fact of Jesus's bodily resurrection from the tomb (Acts 2:24, 32; 3:15; 4:10; 5:30; 10:40; 13:30).

Ok, there are the introductions, mostly being denominational leaders, the Eastern Orthodox first, then the protestant and evangelical groups. Mark Sisk, Epis. bishop of New York was the Episcopalian rep.

A fascinating event.

Submitted by Connie at 4/18/2008 10:55:51 PM

Just watched the Ecumenical Service while reading what the Pope said (including his Scriptural and Creedal references). I was so heartened by B16's forthright condemnation of personal revelation (specifically "prophetic vision") as a way forward for the Church.

Ouch! That's gonna leave a mark.

Also, I was forwarded a piece (about those 15 Protestant and Orthodox leaders who got to personally greet the Pope) that relegated +Mark Sisk not only last of 15, but as part of the group of "leaders from the New York area".

Submitted by The Bovina Bloviator at 4/19/2008 12:19:43 AM

I am at a remove now, of course, but Ms. Schori increasingly strikes me as a small and unimportant person: one certainly deserving our prayers but no longer worthy our speculations as to her boorish behavior.
Submitted by Ken at 4/19/2008 1:04:16 AM

Submitted by Ken at 4/19/2008 1:06:54 AM

Let's try that WITH text:

I'm listening to the address to the UN now. I'll give you this: the guy has range. From inspiring exhortation to really boring international technicalities. Perhaps this UN thing will read better than it listens...

Submitted by Sasha at 4/19/2008 1:44:47 AM

Ah, Bovina! You make Ms. Schori-Jefferts sound like a "small-time operator", as one writer put it about Mime (as compared to Alberich) in Wagner's "Nibelung's Ring" operatic tetralogy...
Submitted by russell at 4/19/2008 6:56:59 AM

Double B hs confinced her that this is a boundry crossing.
Submitted by Rick in Louisiana at 4/19/2008 8:46:35 AM

There is *no way* she would not go unless she just plain did not want to (for whatever reason - "reverse snub", doesn't like His Holiness). When the Pope visits, you *make* room in your schedule. When the Pope invites, you jolly well go.

Unless you don't want to.

As for others sending representatives, sometimes she (we) forget(s) that the Episcopal Church is just one (modest sized) group out of the whole planet. Can the ABP go to every single installation of the "head" of a province? (Presiding Bishop is not the same as Archbishop right? I know she forgets that.) Can the Pope? At least they care enough to send someone.

Submitted by The Bovina Bloviator at 4/19/2008 9:15:54 AM

An odd coincidence, Sasha: just before bashing out that posting I had been listening to Das Rheingold, the Solti/VPO Decca recording with Gustav Neidlinger portraying a most menacing Alberich; it must have put the notion in my head. As for Ms. Schori being Mime...I like that, I like that very much.
Submitted by Therese Z at 4/19/2008 9:30:12 AM

To credit where there may be no credit, +Sisk is the Bishop in New York, and many of the leaders presented to the Pope were the heads of the New York chapters or provinces or beanfests of the New York area, so without other knowledge, +Sisk would fit right in as the appropriate representative.
Submitted by Sibyl at 4/19/2008 9:43:13 AM

The CEO of TEO was in SFL during the Papal Prayer Service. Look out, Bishop Howe - on her way home, she might decide to swing by Central FL with her coterie to pay you a 'pastoral visit' and 'encourage' you a bit, because your letter reaffirming the Faith is most definitely out of line with her theology and agenda!
Submitted by Fuinseoig at 4/19/2008 10:22:43 AM

Thanks for the heads up, Sibyl. The Miami papers seem to have interesting coverage; the impression I get is that it's almost like her own mini-Papal visit down there. The Palm Beach Post quotes her as saying "There's a small segment of the church that's very upset about sexual issues, but it's small," Jefferts Schori said. "It's very noisy, but my sense is that the vast majority of our members think other issues are far more important."

It also says "Asked to comment on the pope's American visit, she would say only, "I'll want to see what he has to say." But not enough to turn up and listen to him, eh, Katharine?

Though she did attract a good crowd, fair dues to her: "The first female Presiding Bishop of the Episcopal Church began a three-day visit to South Florida on Tuesday by celebrating the Eucharist with a overflow crowd at Bethesda-by-the-Sea Church. The congregation filled the sanctuary, which seats about 500, while another 100 watched on a simulcast in the Parish Hall as the Rev. Katharine Jefforts Schori preached a low-key sermon in which she recalled a recent visit to Jerusalem and held out the hope of peace in the Middle East."

The Miami Herald gives a fairly good account, too: "The first female presiding bishop of the Episcopal Church experienced the multicultural world of South Florida firsthand Thursday, with stops at three churches including the oldest Haitian Episcopal congregation in the United States." And we also get "The Wednesday Mass at the cathedral drew several hundred worshipers. ''This is like having the pope visit,'' said Trisha Bush. ``It's a big deal.''

Ah - that explains why she couldn't make the St. Joseph's gig! Doin' her own three-day Global Leader In Town thang ;-)
Submitted by Duane at 4/19/2008 11:16:58 AM

I know where she was: